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Bryen Verrisai
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Posted - 2014.07.27 00:03:00 -
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Neat. |
Bryen Verrisai
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Posted - 2014.07.27 21:44:00 -
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For the sake of not muddying I-RED's thread up, I'll keep this brief and suggest that further discussion may merit a thread of its own:
Without a good deal more information on the matter Ms. Ymladris, I can't really take a stance on the alleged Black Eagle camp and the prisoners you found. With that said...
Katrina Oniseki wrote:If you cannot accept that sometimes, the good of the collective comes before the rights of the individual, you are unfit for your capsule.
If I were a Black Eagle, that is the rationalization I would likely tender to you.
Very Caldari-minded, that group is. A notion that strikes me as rather ironic. |
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:49:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:That aside, from my perspective, I-RED has done more to hurt Gallente war efforts then the entirety of the FW fleets by befriending our allies and internal factions
All due respect to I-RED, that's giving them a little too much credit here. They helped out a few down-in-the-dumps planetary colonies that Syndicate couldn't be moved to give a damn about. That's certainly very nice and speaks well to the character of the corporation, but it doesn't really do much more than that. |
Bryen Verrisai
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:15:00 -
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The only thing that struck me as particularly sketchy in the announcement was the fact that I-RED was aware that the contracts they were having signed were not actually valid, and that they withheld that information from the signers.
And on second review, the apparent mocking of freedom and liberty by Ms. Oniseki seems rather petty and, frankly, ill-informed to the point that I'm wondering whether it is simply meant to be taken in jest. |
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Posted - 2014.07.30 23:22:00 -
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Nicoletta Mithra wrote:the situation of the average joe, who previously was at the mercy of criminals.
Unless I-RED provides information that demonstrates otherwise, it would appear that they actually still are. |
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Posted - 2014.07.31 02:42:00 -
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My specific issue with the "freedom and liberty" bit really wasn't so much that you were disrespecting the "great and mighty and unflappable pillars of Federation virtue", but moreso that it seemed oddly out of place and snippy in an otherwise very professionally worded document. That's why I thought it might have just been a joke. |
Bryen Verrisai
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Posted - 2014.07.31 02:52:00 -
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Setting aside all that legal stuff, there was one thing I wanted to ask but I'm not sure if your security SOP will allow you to answer: assuming these colonies are a very big success to the point that their ability to generate resources and/or revenue draws the attention of the Syndicate, what will (or can) you do should the Syndicate seek to take possession of the colonies, either by force or through other methods? |
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Posted - 2014.07.31 15:14:00 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:
The Intaki are part of the Federation, so warring with the Feds means warring with the Intaki.
I'm sure ms. en Diabel would find this rather humorous.
The relationship between Federal Intaki and the Syndicate is... complicated. While most of us Federals may not approve of Queen Silphy's criminal endeavors, any actual attempt by other empires to invade Syndicate space would likely result in Federation Intaki petitioning the Federation to intervene. |
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Posted - 2014.08.02 19:19:00 -
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With all due respect Mr. Gesakaarin, I feel there are some points about the relationship and history between the Federation and the Syndicate that you do not have entirely correct.
Hevaima Gesakaarin wrote:For decades the citizens of the Intaki Syndicate have remained the victims of a Federal foreign policy
The Syndicate is not a political, sovereign entity. They are more closely analogous with pirate organizations or the Sisters of EVE, or even CONCORD for that matter. One is therefore not a "citizen" of the Syndicate; one is a member of it.
Quote:That Mentas Blaque lost the Presidential elections in YC 108 by only a small margin, remains indicative that the policies of military intervention and intimidation by the Federation against the free people of the Intaki Syndicate is a popular option not only of the Federal government but of its citizens.
It's a little more complex than that: Mentas Blaque was a considerably better campaigner and, in my opinion, public speaker than former President Foiritan. And not only did he campaign with a considerably greater fervor, he also had the advantage of running against an incumbent president whose actions (that allowed for him to be re-elected in the first place) earned him many, many political detractors. In truth, Blaque would have likely won in a landslide if it wasn't for the very militant and ultra-nationalist rhetoric you criticize bringing voters from the rim worlds out in droves against him.
He did not almost win because of his views; he lost because of them.
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It is nothing more than arrogance to claim an entire people as criminals
The Syndicate is a criminal organization. Or, if you wish to convey the same meaning more kindly, it is an organization that makes a point not to recognize most established laws present within the empires and facilitates anyone who wishes to operate and profit outside the constraint of those laws. I'm actually rather surprised to see a member of the State defend them so rigorously, considering the Syndicate is one of the biggest money launderers of Caldari scrip.
With that said, it certainly can't be said that every single member of the Syndicate is a criminal. That's just foolish. But it's equally foolish to try and claim that the Syndicate is not something that it proudly admits to being itself.
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I-RED and their allied partners in Project Dustbowl should be commended for their efforts in refusing to perpetuate the long years of injustices meted out by the Federation against the Intaki Syndicate through adherence to the Caldari traditions of fair, equitable, and honourable deals aimed at ensuring mutual advantage for all involved.
I-RED is not helping the Syndicate. I-RED is helping independent colonists on planets within the Syndicate region.
And as for the long years of injustice, do keep in mind that in spite of its bad history with the Federation the popular opinion among the ranks of the Syndicate is that the Caldari have no business (CEWPA aside) harassing Federation citizens in Placid (and particularly in Intaki). They may not hold us in the Federation in the highest regard, but they are far from being Caldari allies ripe for the picking.
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